A lot of the towns and cities in Scotland already have skateparks. Some are crap, some are average and some are excellent.This is Dunblane- it's not even finished yet but as you can see it's not looking too hot.
Why are things like this still getting built? Is it Clive Bowman's fault? Is it because experienced skateboarders aren't being consulted? Is it because we need an organisation that CAN step in and make sure that Councils money is being used wisely?
If you can or even already have, go to the small community style skatepark in Drumchapel. You can tell the budget was small, but they still managed to built something good. Although the street area isn't great, they did well with the transitioned part and have something to be proud of. More expensive examples include Dundee, Blantyre and Kemnay. All three had skateboarder design/advice and are great skateparks.
Agree? Disagree? Let's hear what people think......
19 comments:
yeah your right this place looks bollocks.seemingly they refused outside help to try and make it better.
Man that looks like a blinded and maimed fruit booter designed that. Whit the fuk is with the tight box in the middle. Dont forget car-l park, its alright for skater design.
Hmm, there's quite a few "debateable" - "skater designed" parks going on as well Kemney's ok, but was very nearly not, i'm sure the waste land in the middle could have been used, as for some of the council parks some of them have been pretty good without any help Alford didn't have any "outside" help and a farmer pretty much did it himself, as for Westburn, i think the designer there should have consulted the the locals instead of being really arugant about it and then making one of the worst un-usable parks every, lines, yeah back and forth, bitch, bitch, bitch - but ASKING THE PEOPLE THAT SKATE instead of building shite you're not even using yourself might be a start. . . .
not all skaters can be trusted to know what not to build. this park is going to be utter, utter shite. 150k gets you ONE BOWL and a FEW BLOCKS ON THE PLATFORM not a multi functional uber skatepark with all the trimmings. children should be seen and not heard, if they are heard this is what happens.
yeah abasluote shite
Totally agree, a lot of skateboarders should have to take a exam before they are allowed to design parks....
There is major communication/understanding problems between skaters and the architects though.
Dundee is a prime example of how skatepark projects should be managed from start to finish.
Out of interest what should be built with a budget of £150k?
Ben Powell, editor of sidewalk sums it up-
'another perspective is: what manner of cun t allowed 150 k of public money to be squandered on that bag of shit?'
where is this park??
Can I just clarify that no skaters were involved in the design of this obscenity.
Skateboard Scotland was involved up until we suggested, very strongly, that skaters be involved in a design project. The Dunblane Skate Committee took the big humff and spat the dummy saying how dare we suggest that the people involved were not best qualified to approve any design and I was told I would never be asked back to another meeting.
I then went to the council and spoke directly to people I had met at the prevous meeting and basically begged for skaters to be involved but guess what... Stirling Council just loves to make sensible decisions and let these people run the show with the obvious results.
This project has nothing to do with skateboarding. Nothing anyone has or will say about this criminal abuse of position and funding will make any difference.
Just makes me wanna go out and give some abuse to f'ing politicans and council heads that just dont get it. Why the fuk cant they understand basic logic? If they want their nice big council bonus kitchen/extension/whatever on their house they go to a plumber or a builder, why is this not the same for a skate park?
Dirtswan krew
Im replying to alot of the negative comments other folk have left. The skateboard scotland guy, you are wrong skateboarders have been involved in this project for years. 6 years to be precise and then skateboard scotland came along about 12 months before the go ahead was given and tried to essentially take over the project after the hard work of raising all the money had been done. I dont know about you but when i've put 5 years hard work into a project I wouldn't just relinquish it with only 12 months to go.
Fair enough no exams were sat to design the park but an experienced contractor was used for the initial design (Clive Bowman) and the company building it are also experienced in building smaller community skateparks.
Also I'd like to point out that this isn't the entire scope of the park and that the funbox is admittedly wrong but this is getting fixed as we speak. Perhaps you should wait and see how it turns out in the end before slagging it.
Finally I'm wondering how many of you anonymous posters have built a skatepark? How many of you have spent 6 years of your life on any project never mind one that probably won't even benefit you that much but will be for the community?
If you don't like it fine but don't slag it off if you don't have a clue about it.
Peter
ha ha last comment=spot on, everyone else "just got served!"
Anyone else get the impression that for all of there good intentions the guys at skateboard scotland are a bunch of slabering retards?
I've been "involved" in "trying" to get a skatepark built at Westburn for 17 years, then 3 years ago, someone else decided "all by himself" what to build didn't ask anyone opions built something so fucking rubbish it's not worth it, and he doesn't even skate it.
Ohh for the record i've been involved in building a couple of parks and have built one (out of wood) with my bare hands, a few years ago when i thought it might be possible to make a career out of it, however at the time it was just a pointless waste of time, so i got a real job instead. . .
Now i don't have to fall out with people "knowing better" and being arseholes, i just get to skate the complete shite others build
Fair points- although....
Clive Bowman is a Landscape Architect- not a skatepark designer.
Fair call- you have worked hard and no-one has the right to stomp all over all the work you have done.
Unfair call- Most of the people, although anonymous, have actually been involved in many skatepark projects over the years. They usually take 5 or 6 years from start to finish, so they are fully aware of the work that goes in.
The point is that we really need some sort of organisation that can advise in good time and make sure skaters are getting the very best for the budget.
Good luck with the rest of the project and apologies that the coments offended.
Yes, skaters were involved years ago but left the area through time and when SS got involved this year there were absolutely no skaters involved in this project.
We were approached because of that very reason to get skaters involved but when we made suggestions some of the group who were not skateboarders didn't like it.
Just wanted to clarify that important point, thanks.
Hope the final park works out brilliant.
I think a lot of people have done their own things to try to get parks and it's all to be applauded but sometimes it takes more than good intentions.
If the park was designed by local skaters then that's what they wanted but they better make sure it is well used or the local anti-skater brigade will just flag it up as an example of how stupid and pointless spending money on skateboarding is and we'll all suffer in years to come when we all try to get our local councils to give us parks...for what someone wanting 100% total control over a project and not considering other's opinions just because they personally have been at it for 6 years.
It's not a control thing Peter and this is a public skatepark for other to use too.
A lot's changed in 6 years in skateboarding.
Looking forward to seeing the finished project and I will make a point of going to skate it and form my opinion then.
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REAL GOOD REAL GOOD, looks like swell beans to me guys. GIve us a bleedin break man. I think we did alright. bye
Hello All
Just to let everyone know that the dunblane skatepark is now actually finished so if you want to go along and see if your fears were correct or if maybe they were unnecessary then head to dunblane and have a go.
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